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		<title>360iDev, iPhone Developer conference coming to Denver</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The excellent folks responsible for the 360 conferences are bringing their highly regarded iPhone Development conference, 360iDev, to Denver at the end of September. Sign up before September 1st for their early bird discount. With 40 speakers, and 4 big days, if iPhone development is your thing, then this is perfect for you, and fantastic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The excellent folks responsible for the 360 conferences are bringing their highly regarded iPhone Development conference, <a href="http://www.360idev.com">360iDev</a>, to Denver at the end of September. Sign up before September 1st for their early bird discount. With 40 speakers, and 4 big days, if iPhone development is your thing, then this is perfect for you, and fantastic value at just $499.</p>
<p>Stay tuned too for news on Web Directions North for 2010, returning to Denver early in the year.</p>
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		<title>Rocky Mountain Adobe Camp &#8211; in Denver June 22</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The great value Rocky Mountain Adobe Camp is on in Denver June 22. Three streams for Flash developers, Dynamic Media, and eLearning Professionals, for just $40 early bird. 
Well worth a look I&#8217;d say.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great value <a href="http://camp.rmaug.com/sessions">Rocky Mountain Adobe Camp</a> is on in Denver June 22. Three streams for Flash developers, Dynamic Media, and eLearning Professionals, for just $40 early bird. </p>
<p>Well worth a look I&#8217;d say.</p>
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		<title>Ignite Denver 3 coming up on May 13th</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The third Denver installment of the great Ignite events is coming up on May 13th. If you are an aspiring speaker, you really should think about presenting. And even if you don&#8217;t want to speak, get along for inspirational, entertaining presentations, and the opportunity to network with your peers.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third Denver installment of the great Ignite events is <a href="http://ignitedenver.blogspot.com/">coming up on May 13th</a>. If you are an aspiring speaker, you really should think about presenting. And even if you don&#8217;t want to speak, get along for inspirational, entertaining presentations, and the opportunity to network with your peers.</p>
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		<title>Ask the browser makers &#8211; PEte LePage from the Internet Explorer team</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the first of what we hope will be a new, occasional series at Web Directions, we speak with PEte LePage Product Manager, Internet Explorer, Developer Division about their goals with IE8, compatibility mode, with IE7 emulation in IE8 is identical to IE7 and more about the browser. Thanks to PEte for his detailed responses.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first of what we hope will be a new, occasional series at Web Directions, we speak with <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/petel/">PEte LePage</a> Product Manager, Internet Explorer, Developer Division about their goals with <span class="caps">IE8</span>, compatibility mode, with <span class="caps">IE7</span> emulation in <span class="caps">IE8</span> is <em>identical</em> to <span class="caps">IE7</span> and more about the browser. Thanks to PEte for his detailed responses.</p>
<p class="question"><strong>1. In our recent &#8220;<a href="http://www.webdirections.org/the-state-of-the-web-2008/">state of the web&#8221; survey of developers</a>, back in December 08, while about 90% of developers say they test their sites in <span class="caps">IE7</span>, and even close to 80% said <span class="caps">IE6</span>, only about 30% say they test their sites in <span class="caps">IE8</span>. With the looming release of <span class="caps">IE8</span>, this came as something of a surprise to us. Does it surprise you?</strong></p>
<p class="answer">In December, Beta 2 had been out for a few months, and I think developers still expected churn in the browser, so they didn&#8217;t feel the need to test in <span class="caps">IE8</span>.  At that time, the vast majority of folks who were running <span class="caps">IE8</span> as their primary browser were people who like to live on the cutting edge, so they expected any issues that happened.  Now that Internet Explorer 8 has been released to the web, and will soon begin distribution via Automatic Updates and Windows Updates, we expect (and hope) that developers will begin regularly testing their sites in <span class="caps">IE8</span>.</p>
<p><strong>2. Why do you think it might be that developers aren&#8217;t testing. Is it that they think &#8220;it works fine in <span class="caps">IE7</span>, so it will be fine in <span class="caps">IE8</span>&#8221;? Are there challenges (or perceptions of difficulties) for developers in installing and testing with multiple versions of <span class="caps">IE</span>? Or is there some other reason do you think?</strong></p>
<p class="answer">I believe the main reason people weren&#8217;t testing was because <span class="caps">IE8</span> hasn&#8217;t released its <span class="caps">RC</span> yet, and people wanted to be sure they were testing with near final bits. We&#8217;ve done a lot to try to alleviate the problem of testing multiple versions of Internet Explorer on the same machine, for example, once you&#8217;ve installed <span class="caps">IE8</span>, you can test you site pretty reliably in <span class="caps">IE8</span> mode, and <span class="caps">IE7</span> mode.  The Expression Web team has also just shipped a new tool called <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/xweb/archive/2009/03/18/Microsoft-Expression-Web-SuperPreview-for-Windows-Internet-Explorer.aspx">Super Preview</a> that lets you see how a page would be rendered by <span class="caps">IE6</span>, <span class="caps">IE7</span> and <span class="caps">IE8</span>.  And of course, we still make the Virtual <span class="caps">PC</span> images available, so you can test your pages in a true <span class="caps">IE6</span>, <span class="caps">IE7</span> or <span class="caps">IE8</span> environment. </p>
<p class="question"><strong>3. What are some key areas you recommend developers focus on when testing their sites in <span class="caps">IE8</span> - have there been particular gotchas showing up in your own testing, and reports from developers to you? What things have you fixed that developers have previously relied on being broken (as part of various hacks and so on)? If developers have limited time, and resources, where should they be focussing their compatibility efforts?</strong></p>
<p class="answer">When developers are testing their sites in Internet Explorer 8, they should focus their efforts on layout and rendering.  Internet Explorer 8 ships with a new layout engine that we wrote from scratch, and we spent a lot of time making sure that it rendered according to the <span class="caps">W3C</span> <span class="caps">CSS</span> 2.1 spec.  That means that in some cases, where we didn&#8217;t accurately follow the spec before, we do now, and that may cause some problems.  If developers have limited time, they have a couple of options available to them.  First, they should look at their site in <span class="caps">IE8</span>, for the most part, sites will just work.  If there are some oddities, there are a couple of things that they can try.  If the send different <span class="caps">CSS</span> or <span class="caps">HTML</span> to Firefox vs. <span class="caps">IE</span>, they should try sending the Firefox content to <span class="caps">IE8</span> and see if that works.  Another option that they have available, if they don&#8217;t have the time to fix their site, they can use the <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/cc405106.aspx">X-<span class="caps">UA</span>-Compatible switch</a> to force Internet Explorer 8 to use the <span class="caps">IE7</span> rendering engine.  </p>
<p class="question"><strong>4. At a glance, the various quirks and compatibility modes in <span class="caps">IE8</span> (and of course other browsers) can be quite daunting for developers (outside the &#8220;always up to date&#8221; developers in my experience, the whole concept gets a bit of a &#8220;huh&#8221; from a lot of workaday developers I speak with). Is there a good one pager out there to help folks understand the compatibility matrix, in particular, the new meta element approach to compatibility?</strong></p>
<p class="answer">The best place for developers to get information about compatibility and all the different modes is on the Compatibility Center at <a href="http://msdn.com/iecompat">http://msdn.com/iecompat</a>  For developers, the important thing to understand is that Internet Explorer 8 ships with two rendering engines side by side; the <span class="caps">IE7</span> engine and the new <span class="caps">IE8</span>, more standards compliant engine, which is used by default.  Developers can explicitly choose which engine they want <span class="caps">IE</span> to use (quirks, <span class="caps">IE7</span> or <span class="caps">IE8</span>) by using the X-<span class="caps">UA</span>-Compatible tag.  If a developer has a site, or set of pages that don&#8217;t render well in <span class="caps">IE8</span>, and they either can&#8217;t or don&#8217;t have time to fix them, they can simply add the <span class="caps">IE</span>=EmulateIE7 X-<span class="caps">UA</span>-Compatible switch to the page or server, and avoid making major changes. </p>
<p class="question"><strong>5. There&#8217;s some concern being expressed by developers that EmulateIE7 is not exactly the same as <span class="caps">IE7</span>&#8217;s rendering - is that so? And if so, how do they differ, and how significant is this to developers?</strong></p>
<p class="answer">EmulateIE7 is not truly equivalent to testing in <span class="caps">IE7</span>, but it&#8217;s pretty close.  When building Internet Explorer 8, we were able to version the layout and rendering engine, but it was impractical to version the entire end-to-end system; for example the networking stack, parser, security fixes, HiRes layout, JavaScript engine, some <span class="caps">DOM</span> APIs, etc&#8230; In practice, though, we&#8217;ve found that <span class="caps">IE8</span> Compatibility View works extremely well for most sites.  For most cases, this should be enough, and for final verification, we provide the <span class="caps">VPC</span> images that you can download and test with a clean version of Internet Explorer 7.</p>
<p class="question"><strong>6. Conditional comments - are these still an important tool from the perspective of the <span class="caps">IE</span> team for managing compatibility, or in essence are they deprecated going forward?</strong></p>
<p class="answer">Conditional comments are the best way to separate out tweaks and hacks for individual browsers or browser versions.  For example, if you create your site and find it works great in <span class="caps">IE8</span>, Firefox 3 and Safari 4, but there are a few minor tweaks you need to make for <span class="caps">IE6</span> and <span class="caps">IE7</span>, we recommend that developers use conditional comments to separate out those hacks for each version. Conditional comments aren&#8217;t going away and are an important part of ensuring that developers have all of the tools they need to support different browsers and different versions.</p>
<p class="question"><strong>7. Since refocusing on <span class="caps">IE</span> with <span class="caps">IE7</span>, you guys seem to have been putting a lot of effort into bringing <span class="caps">IE</span> back up to speed, and helping make developers lives easier when it comes to  targeting all web browsers - can we expect to see that going forward? Can you talk publicly about any areas of commitment?</strong></p>
<p class="answer">I think with Internet Explorer 7, we showed our commitment to Internet Explorer, and building a great browser.  With Internet Explorer 8, we&#8217;ve cemented that by building a great browser that includes a strong commitment to ensuring great standards support and interoperability.  We have just started our planning for the next release of Internet Explorer, but I think that the last two releases have laid out an excellent ground work for what we do in the future and our commitment to building a fast, interoperable, standards compliant and innovative web browser.</p>
<p><strong>Thanks PEte for your time.</p>
<p>Got any follow up questions for PEte? I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll keep an eye on the comments here.</p>
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		<title>Object Oriented CSS &#8211; the video</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At Web Directions North, the highly talented Nicole Sullivan debuted her &#8220;OOCSS&#8221; concept, to much interest. Yahoo Developer Network video recorded a number of the sessions, including Nicole&#8217;s.
Well have the podcast, and transcript courtesy of Opera Software, up and running soon, but for now, take a look at the video, take a look at the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Web Directions North, the highly talented <a href="http://www.stubbornella.org/content/2009/03/23/object-oriented-css-video-on-ydn/">Nicole Sullivan debuted her &#8220;<span class="caps">OOCSS</span>&#8221; concept</a>, to much interest. <a href="http://developer.yahoo.net/blogs/theater/archives/2009/03/website_and_webapp_performance.html">Yahoo Developer Network video recorded</a> a number of the sessions, including Nicole&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Well have the podcast, and transcript courtesy of Opera Software, up and running soon, but for now, take a look at the video, <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/stubbornella/object-oriented-css">take a look at the slides</a>, or read Nicole&#8217;s <a href="http://www.stubbornella.org/content/2009/02/28/object-oriented-css-grids-on-github/">detailed introduction to the concept</a>.</p>
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		<title>IE8 compatibility mode != IE7?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the release of IE8 seemingly imminent, and with many developers still not testing their sites with IE8, the IE team have just posted details of how IE8&#8217;s compatibility mode is not necessarily identical to IE7
We strive to make Compatibility View behave as much like IE7 as possible, but we do make exceptions. Many of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the release of <span class="caps">IE8</span> seemingly imminent, and with <a href="http://www.webdirections.org/the-state-of-the-web-2008/browsers-and-operating-systems/#browser-testing">many developers still not testing their sites with <span class="caps">IE8</span></a>, the <span class="caps">IE</span> team have just posted details of how <span class="caps">IE8</span>&#8217;s compatibility mode is not necessarily identical to <span class="caps">IE7</span></p>
<blockquote><p>We strive to make Compatibility View behave as much like <span class="caps">IE7</span> as possible, but we do make exceptions. Many of these exceptions enable improved security and accessibility features immediately, even for sites that have not yet migrated to <span class="caps">IE8</span> Standards Mode.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/03/12/site-compatibility-and-ie8.aspx">details at the <span class="caps">IE</span> team blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>Inside Web Directions North &#8211; YDN Theater</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The excellent folks at Yahoo Developer Network were out in force at Web Directions North, and among other things, Christian Heilmann (who&#8217;ll be running Ajax and JavaScript workshops for us in Sydney and Melbourne in April) interviewed various people in attendance, asking them about how the current economic climate will impact web technologies and the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The excellent folks at Yahoo Developer Network were out in force at Web Directions North, and among other things, Christian Heilmann (who&#8217;ll be running Ajax and JavaScript workshops for us in Sydney and Melbourne in April) interviewed various people in attendance, asking them about how the current economic climate will impact web technologies and the web industry. Yahoo! also recorded various other sessions and aspects of the event, so hopefully we&#8217;ll be seeing more of those soon.</p>
<p>Plus the podcasts, along with transcripts courtesy of Opera Software, will be coming along shortly, so keep an eye out for them.</p>
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		<title>Thanks!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m just back home after finishing up all the little loose ends you get after the conference, and of course the fantastic couple of days in Breckenridge, with a huge thanks to the IE 8 team for their support there. There&#8217;s wrap up posts, podcasts, and much more to come, but for now, a huge [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just back home after finishing up all the little loose ends you get after the conference, and of course the fantastic couple of days in Breckenridge, with a huge thanks to the <span class="caps">IE</span> 8 team for their support there. There&#8217;s wrap up posts, podcasts, and much more to come, but for now, a huge thanks to all who helped make Web Directions North 2009, despite the current economic climate, a fantastic success.</p>
<ul>
<li>To our wonderful <a href="http://north.webdirections.org/speakers">speakers</a></li>
<li>To the fantastic sponsors and supporters (you&#8217;ll find them listed on the right of the page)</li>
<li>To the local industry, and community, particularly Chip Diffendaffer and Eric Nance</li>
<li>To Cindy Li, Matt Harris, Cheryl Geldhill and Scott Geldhill, for their amazing support keeping everything running smoothly
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<p>But most of all, to those attendees, who came from near and far, to make the atmosphere fantastic, and to show a lot of faith in the web at this time of considerable uncertainty.</p>
<p>Much more to come, but for now, one last thing - remember to put the <span class="vevent" id="hcalendar-Web-Directions-North-2010"><a class="url" href="http://north.webdirections.org"><abbr class="dtstart" title="2010-02-01">first week of February 2010</abbr> in <span class="location">Denver</span> in your diary for <abbr class="dtend" title="2010-02-07">next year&#8217;s Web Directions North</abbr></a></span>.</p>
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		<title>Media Temple closing night party</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all those coming to Web Directions North, the event you&#8217;ve all been waiting for - the Media Temple Closing night party - is on Thursday night, from 7.30pm &#8216;til whenever -  
Wynkoop Brewery Billiard Bar,
1634 18th St
Denver, CO 80202
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Thanks again to Media Temple for their support!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all those coming to Web Directions North, the event you&#8217;ve all been waiting for - the Media Temple Closing night party - is on Thursday night, from 7.30pm &#8216;til whenever -  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wynkoop.com/">Wynkoop Brewery Billiard Bar</a>,<br />
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Denver, <span class="caps">CO</span> 80202</p>
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		<title>Ask the experts about the state of the Web</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks back, we published the results of our first State of the Web survey, and over 1200 web designers, developers, and others in the web industry responded, giving some valuable, and unique insights into the technologies, philosophies and practices of today&#8217;s web professionals.
Following on from this, next week at Web Directions North, we&#8217;ve [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks back, we published the results of our first <a href="http://www.webdirections.org/the-state-of-the-web-2008/">State of the Web survey</a>, and over 1200 web designers, developers, and others in the web industry responded, giving some valuable, and unique insights into the technologies, philosophies and practices of today&#8217;s web professionals.</p>
<p>Following on from this, next week at <a href="http://north.webdirections.org/">Web Directions North</a>, we&#8217;ve assembled representatives from some of the most important organizations and companies shaping the web today, for a &#8220;<a href="http://north.webdirections.org/program#the-state-of-the-web-2009">State of the Web</a>&#8221; session. So, here&#8217;s your chance to ask them your questions about the direction they and their organizations see the web headed, and how their efforts are shaping that.</p>
<p>If you are keen to ask any or all of the following about the state of web technologies and browsers, then leave a comment here, and we&#8217;ll choose a representative sample to ask at the session.</p>
<p>Participants include</p>
<ul>
<li>Chris Wilson, co-chair of the <span class="caps">HTML</span> Working Group, and Platform Architect for Internet Explorer</li>
<li>Lars Erik Bolstad, head of Opera Software’s Core Technology Department which develops Opera’s cross-platform rendering engine &#8220;Presto&#8221;</li>
<li>Dan Connolly, <span class="caps">W3C</span>, who needs little if any introduction</li>
<li>Scott Fergette, Adobe Systems.</li>
</ul>
<p>And maybe one or two late entrants as well.</p>
<p>So, fire away with any questions you&#8217;d like to ask these folks, and we&#8217;ll put them to them in Denver next week.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll also be podcasting the session, so keep an eye out for that in the coming weeks.</p>
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